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anotero

Autocross Champion
Without people who can afford to start a business and hire the people who you want to give their wealth to there wouldn't have been a business to hire the people in the first place. MrFancypants mentioned Bernie Sanders because that's what Bernie would do. It's called socialism.

Bernie is not a socialist. He's a populist grown by the same system all the other candidates were grown by.
There's a huge difference between having the funds to start a business and multi billion dollar corporations whose sole purpose is to satisfy the greedy investors (I'm not pulling this out of my ass -- investor satisfaction is the official business model). I would have no problem working for a talented honest man who started a business. The reason it's so difficult to start a business and actually make it these days is the corporations that have monopolized the market and either bought out or destroyed the smaller firms. Look at the aviation industry that I'm a part of. One can barely name two or three small firms that somehow miraculously managed to survive. All others are now defunct because they were absorbed or destroyed, and it's a fucking pity, because the aviation industry has turned into a 1000% profit making machine instead of an industry that furthers progress and innovates.
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Bernie is not a socialist. He's a populist grown by the same system all the other candidates were grown by.
There's a huge difference between having the funds to start a business and multi billion dollar corporations whose sole purpose is to satisfy the greedy investors (I'm not pulling this out of my ass -- investor satisfaction is the official business model). I would have no problem working for a talented honest man who started a business. The reason it's so difficult to start a business and actually make it these days is the corporations that have monopolized the market and either bought out or destroyed the smaller firms. Look at the aviation industry that I'm a part of. One can barely name two or three small firms that somehow miraculously managed to survive. All others are now defunct because they were absorbed or destroyed, and it's a fucking pity, because the aviation industry has turned into a 1000% profit making machine instead of an industry that furthers progress and innovates.

It's called free enterprise. And those small business owners that you reference reaped the rewards of being bought out by a larger business. That's the way free enterprise works. Yes unfortunately some specialized businesses are overpricing their products but for the majority of products prices have come down. For an example look at how much contact lenses cost when they first came out and look at how cheap they are now. Just an example but it's true for a tremendous number of products.

With regards to Bernie Sanders being a socialist even Bernie wouldn't or couldn't define exactly what a populist is.

https://www.hoover.org/research/how-socialist-bernie-sanders
 

anotero

Autocross Champion
It's called free enterprise. And those small business owners that you reference reaped the rewards of being bought out by a larger business. That's the way free enterprise works. Yes unfortunately some specialized businesses are overpricing their products but for the majority of products prices have come down. For an example look at how much contact lenses cost when they first came out and look at how cheap they are now. Just an example but it's true for a tremendous number of products.

With regards to Bernie Sanders being a socialist even Bernie wouldn't or couldn't define exactly what a populist is.

https://www.hoover.org/research/how-socialist-bernie-sanders

I wasn't talking about prices of goods at all.
Free enterprise ends where monopolies start. There's no free enterprise anymore.
Bernie, just like the rest of politicians, is a talking head. He doesn't need to be able to define anything, he just needs to appeal to people's emotions.
 

Faceman

Autocross Newbie
The press is doing an excellent job keeping us divided and distracted at the moment. For example, check out the rumors surrounding Wayfair.
 

anotero

Autocross Champion
The press is doing an excellent job keeping us divided and distracted at the moment. For example, check out the rumors surrounding Wayfair.

I'm afraid to google "Wayfair" now. Maybe I should stay in the dark, will keep me less antagonized... :)
Speaking of distractions, sup with Hillary and those hearings about her treason? Or is everyone too preoccupied with Donald's twitter?

PS
Kanye 2020!
 

The Fed

Old Guys Rule
When I was working, affirmative action was supposed to work this way; simplified, if you had two candidates that were equal in every way, you needed to promote the member of the "protected" group. In reality, most supervisors and managers didn't want to spend the time writing and rewriting the justification to pass over certain minorities, or risk receiving a lower performance review because supporting EEO was a rating factor. I can tell you stories you would find incredulous.
 

The Fed

Old Guys Rule
I had to laugh at White privilege. I grew up so poor I rarely got something "new" to wear until my older brother outgrew it. My divorced mother received no child support or alimony from my deadbeat politically connected father. She worked two jobs to support us. I was a latchkey kid. I had to do everything I could to stand out.
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
I had to laugh at White privilege. I grew up so poor I rarely got something "new" to wear until my older brother outgrew it. My divorced mother received no child support or alimony from my deadbeat politically connected father. She worked two jobs to support us. I was a latchkey kid. I had to do everything I could to stand out.

Did you succeed? 😂 Just kidding.
 

KevinC

Autocross Champion
Is it coincidence that the 3 geezers in the previous 3 (including this one) posts are living in Arizona and Florida, both known as retirement havens? Methinks not!
 

jimlloyd40

Autocross Champion
Is it coincidence that the 3 geezers in the previous 3 (including this one) posts are living in Arizona and Florida, both known as retirement havens? Methinks not!

You're right but I'm questioning myself today at 117 degrees in Phoenix. 😰
 

MonkeyMD

Autocross Champion
So The Fed and Jimlloyd aren't the same person. Jk
 
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