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2020 FORMULA 1 SEASON

95gto

Ready to race!
I would agree that if Hamilton were to move to Ferrari, 2021 would be the ideal time to do so. If Mercedes doesn't do a great job with the 2021 car it will impact Lewis's ability to win races, and that would ultimately impact his value/marketability to other teams. That being said, I don't see Mercedes doing a bad job with the new car and Mercedes would protect Lewis's place as the top driver in a way Ferrari never would.

Hamilton will have to decide when and how he wants to end his career, and if he is willing to take any risks along the way.
 

torga

Drag Racing Champion
Lol, kinda what's happening to Seb at the moment.....
I was going to rush in and say that also happened to Alonso... but RBR between 2010-2013 were truly on form, with 2011-2013 being clearly dominant. I'm a firm believer that how close Alonso came to the title in 2010 and 2012 is purely a testament to his driving skill rather than a testament to Ferrari's engineering. Whereas, I'm more prepared to attribute Vettel's 2010-2013 success more to RBR and Newey, because that truly was a stellar team of designers, though Vettel is a talented driver.
 
For sure Alonso's Ferrari years made me a fan... 2010 and 2012 definitely made him look better than worse...

Especially seeing Massa struggle in the sister car during that time.... i had thought he was the next be thing when schumi was retiring.....

He was relentless, brought that dog of a Ferrari withing inches of the title when it looked impossible....

But the racing was much closer back then, you never knew who was going to win until near the end when RBR somehow made it to the top......

2014+ F! is Mercedes in F1 vs everyone else in F1.5, that meme is not too far off... Ferrari has been playing catch up the entire time....

Because of that their car design, strategy, etc is always wild-card, nothing was ever straight forward... so Vettel in a way could never feel comfortable in that environment...

His mistakes are mostly out of desperation.... he is fast but he is really is impatient...

On the other hand, I never saw Alonso have a slump at all the entire time he was in F1, he is a machine
 

torga

Drag Racing Champion
Alonso is for sure my favorite driver right now. Really rooting for him to win Indy and finally join Graham Hill on the unofficial Triple Crown pedestal. Tangentially, anyone ever noticed how Graham Hill looked like an old-timey dastardly villain? Dude could've been Snidely Whiplash.
Anyway, yeah. Alonso was always performing far and above. Kinda random point but man, I think Räikkönen is an great driver and he deserved all the success he got, but he would not have won the 2007 WDC if Hamilton and Alonso could've stopped being children over at McLaren for one literal second.
One of my favorite things Alonso said was in 2005 after his insane overtake on Schumacher at Suzuka's 130R. A reporter asked him how he felt so sure that he'd make the pass. He said something along the lines of, "well, Michael has two kids so I felt I could trust him". Fucking brutal.
 

torga

Drag Racing Champion
Hell yeah, five years at Ferrari!! Perfect environment to blossom. I'm rooting for him.
 

vbrad26

Go Kart Champion
I like him, and I think he'll do quite well.
It's no surprise, but it is obvious who Ferrari is focusing on right now.
Seb is now Raikkonen lol.
 

CarlosCanizares

Go Kart Champion
I like him, and I think he'll do quite well.
It's no surprise, but it is obvious who Ferrari is focusing on right now.
Seb is now Raikkonen lol.
He totally reminds me of Button, but with a much better start to his career. He may not show the same tenacity as Max (sorta like a blend of Lewis/Seb), but I truly wish Charles the best.

He MIGHT make a Ferrari fan out me.
 

CarlosCanizares

Go Kart Champion
I feel for Seb. He’s definitely on borrowed seat time: https://www.express.co.uk/sport/f1-autosport/1222088/Sebastian-Vettel-keep-Lewis-Hamilton-away-from-Ferrari

If Lewis does switch in 2021, I worry of a 3peat (first was Alonso, second is Vettel). And both instances happened when a relative-newcomer dominated (Redbull for Alonso and Merc for Seb) and Ferrari were left scratching their heads.

I already fear RB/Honda for 2020. Japanese determination inside a Newey-desgined car driven by a Dutch masterpiece.
 

CarlosCanizares

Go Kart Champion
I still want to believe that it is not totally all his fault.
Despite my criticisms of him, it most definitely is NOT all his fault. Ferrari's got a lot of the blame on their plate as well.

But unfortunately, in the same car, a rookie has out-performed him.
 

95gto

Ready to race!
I think Leclerc's deal will reduce the chances of Lewis going to Ferrari. He would have to willingly go to a team that is clearly invested in the other driver, and I don't think that is what he wants to do.

As for Seb, I hope 2020 is a better season for him.
 

torga

Drag Racing Champion
I'll bet Verstappen staying was also in Honda's desires as well. They are much more productive with RBR than they were with McLaren, but it seems like Honda really vibe well with Verstappen. They want a talent like that winning races with their engines. I'll bet they were part of the negotiations.

I can't remember - what were the rumors of Merc leaving based on? Just seems odd, like Audi and Porsche leaving WEC after so much success.
 

vbrad26

Go Kart Champion
Audi and Porsche had their sights set on other racing ventures. They learned all they could from the hybrid era of WEC. They were successful, and they moved on.
If Merc finds success in Formula E, their sights may shift as well.
But you can't REALLY compare Mercedes F1 to Audi/Porsche WEC. Sort of apples to oranges.
Merc are going to have a big decision to make come 2021. I think they are really going to have to make a decision to focus on F1 or FE.
I think a lot of that will depend on how each respective series does in their championship.
 

torga

Drag Racing Champion
Probably more like the accountants thought the company learned all it could. I think there's always more to learn from motorsport and engineers will always be curious. Very much looking forward to the hypercars of next season.
I've been meaning to give Formula E a go, but I don't have an easy way to watch it - I don't subscribe to any cable services. I've only caught it sparingly at bars whenever they aren't playing a type of sportsball.
 
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