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APR Presents the APR Valve Spring System!

Arin@APR

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APR is pleased to present the APR Valve Spring System.

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The APR Valve Spring System is a high performance, lightweight upgrade designed to increase valve control and eradicate valve float common on many applications. APR’s design specifications called for a valve spring, retainer and spring seat combination that doesn’t overpower and snap the OEM valves or erode the aluminum spring seat, while still maintaining exceptional valve control. The result is an advanced design that’s 28% lighter yet 20% stiffer than the high performance OEM Golf R setup and is proven to eliminate the OEM valve train’s weakest link. We call it Performance Without Compromise!

Key Points:

  • Increase valve train control
  • 71% weight reduction over OEM Golf R retainers
  • 19% weight reduction over OEM Golf R springs
  • 20% stiffness increase over OEM Golf R springs
  • Eradicates TSI K04 “valve float” issues
  • Supports higher revving applications
  • Weight saving beehive spring design
  • ASTM A877A OTSC round wire steel springs
  • 6AL4V American titanium retainers
  • 4140 heat-treated chrome molly steel spring seats with black oxide coating
  • 29 grams per spring
  • 2 grams per retainer
  • Compatible with OEM valves
  • Spring seats included to protects against aluminum erosion in the head



Valve Springs



Weight reduction, and not necessary stiffness, is absolutely necessary to increasing valve control. The APR Valve Spring utilizes a beehive design that allows for a reduction in mass in not only the spring itself, but also through use of a smaller titanium retainer. The springs feature an ovate wire design that allows for even stress distribution resulting in better control at high RPMs through a resistance of harmful valve float inducing harmonics. The lightweight design also accomplishes accurate valve control without requiring an overly stiff spring which has been proven to snap OEM valves in half. Each valve spring weights 29 grams and represents a 19% weight reduction over the OEM Golf R spring. The result is a highly engineered design that’s simply plug and play!

Valve Spring Retainers



Through the use of a beehive design, APR’s Engineers were able to design and supply a valve spring retainer that’s smaller than stock to reduce weight as much as possible. In an effort to offer extreme weight savings, at an additional 71% over the OEM Golf R retainers, American 6AL4V titanium was used for its high specific strength weighing in at only 2 grams each. By offering outstanding weight savings, exceptional valve control characteristic are achieved while only requiring a modest 20% increase in stiffness over the OEM Golf R spring.

Valve Spring Seats



Often an overlooked piece of an upgraded valve train is the valve spring seat. The factory heads are aluminum, and unfortunately increased spring pressure can distort or erode the mating surface overtime as they mate directly to the bare head. To prevent this from happening, APR’s Engineers designed valve spring seats out of 4140 heat-treated chrome molly steel with a black oxide coating. The spring seats are strong enough to withstand pressure from the springs and provide a mating surface that evenly distributes spring load across a larger area than the spring it self, allowing an increased spring rate without negative side effects to the aluminum head.

Eliminating Valve Float

It’s not uncommon to experience valve float with the OEM valve springs, even below the OEM rev limit. On some applications like the 2.0 TSI, backpressure from the K04 turbocharger has been known to force the exhaust valves open. This has been noticed on vehicles with overly weak OEM valve springs and some with higher miles that have simply lost their stiffness over time.

This issue accompanies misfires commonly above 5000 RPM. In some extreme cases, valves are forced open and the vehicle ceases accelerating any further. A quick datalog of intake mass airflow and boost pressure at wide open throttle will show a sudden rise in boost pressure with an immediate loss of airflow as pressure from the open valves is pushed back into the intake manifold.

On other applications, valve float can begin to occur just beyond the OEM rev limit. While other components, such as higher strength valves are often required for extremely high revving applications, the APR Valve Spring System will eliminate float well beyond the revving constraints set forth by the other components.


Application Guide


APR Valve Springs, Valve Seats and Valve Retainers
Set of 16 Intake / Exhaust
1.8T & 2.0T (EA113 & EA888 G1/2)
MS100085
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APR Valve Springs, Valve Seats and Valve Retainers
Set of 20 Intake / Exhaust
2.5 TFSI & 2.5L I5
MS100089
[Price removed per the Golf MK6 Rules]

APR Valve Springs, Valve Seats and Valve Retainers
Set of 24 Intake / Exhaust
3.0 TFSI & 3.2L FSI V6
MS100090
[Price removed per the Golf MK6 Rules]

APR Valve Springs, Valve Seats and Valve Retainers
Set of 32 Intake / Exhaust
4.0 TFSI & 4.2L FSI V8
MS100091
[Price removed per the Golf MK6 Rules]

APR Valve Springs, Valve Seats and Valve Retainers
Set of 40 Intake / Exhaust
5.0 TFSI & 5.2L FSI V10
MS100092
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tampa_mk5

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Arin- would it make sense to upgrade the valves when doing this or should we just reuse the OEM ones? Is there any benefit to combining the Ferrea valves (OEM size not oversized) with this kit?
 

Charlotte CC

Ready to race!
Arin- would it make sense to upgrade the valves when doing this or should we just reuse the OEM ones? Is there any benefit to combining the Ferrea valves (OEM size not oversized) with this kit?

Keep in mind, valve spings can be replace WITHOUT removing the head. To replace the valves, you have to remove the head. Much more time and labor added.
 

tampa_mk5

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Keep in mind, valve spings can be replace WITHOUT removing the head. To replace the valves, you have to remove the head. Much more time and labor added.
Thank you! Not looking to pull the head if it can be done without. I was quoted $900 for labor so I assumed the head was being pulled.
 

Charlotte CC

Ready to race!
Thank you! Not looking to pull the head if it can be done without. I was quoted $900 for labor so I assumed the head was being pulled.

Labor for spring install should be about $500. Jamie@apr metioned it takes about 3-4 hours if using the tool required to replace the springs without removing the head.
When you get quotes, make sure the shop is aware of not removing the head, and has the right tool, and is quoting this properly.
When i got flashed to V3.1 software, i inquired at the shop the price for spring replacement. They said they did not have the right tool, and quoted really high, like 10 hours and $1000, and kind of said they did not really want to do it. Many people on the forums have had the springs replaced for $500 labor.

in this tread, you can see the snap on tool. There are cheaper ones though.
http://forums.vwvortex.com/showthread.php?6988113-Valve-spring-replacement
 

hockeystar17mnj

Ready to race!
Labor for spring install should be about $500. Jamie@apr metioned it takes about 3-4 hours if using the tool required to replace the springs without removing the head.
When you get quotes, make sure the shop is aware of not removing the head, and has the right tool, and is quoting this properly.
When i got flashed to V3.1 software, i inquired at the shop the price for spring replacement. They said they did not have the right tool, and quoted really high, like 10 hours and $1000, and kind of said they did not really want to do it. Many people on the forums have had the springs replaced for $500 labor.
That shop has no idea what they are doing then... Be glad you didnt go with them
 
Uhm... this kit looks EXACTLY like Ferrea's valve spring kit with retainers and seats. Am I wrong?

I have feeling APR simply partnered with ferrea on this and offering APR branding on their technology
 

Charlotte CC

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Uhm... this kit looks EXACTLY like Ferrea's valve spring kit with retainers and seats. Am I wrong?

I have feeling APR simply partnered with ferrea on this and offering APR branding on their technology

Its quoted on the forum, but Arin@apr said Ferrea's valve springs are too stiff wand would break a stock valve. So i cant imagine they are exactly alike.
 
Its quoted on the forum, but Arin@apr said Ferrea's valve springs are too stiff wand would break a stock valve. So i cant imagine they are exactly alike.

dont mean to bash APR. but I HIGHLY doubt they have enough money to R&D their OWN valve springs.. considering the manufacture, design, test, etc etc.. alot of work from a tuning company

there any ongoing threads where its been noted the ferrea springs with OEM valves cause them to break? Or simply ferrea revised them.
 

hockeystar17mnj

Ready to race!
dont mean to bash APR. but I HIGHLY doubt they have enough money to R&D their OWN valve springs.. considering the manufacture, design, test, etc etc.. alot of work from a tuning company

there any ongoing threads where its been noted the ferrea springs with OEM valves cause them to break? Or simply ferrea revised them.

Are you kidding? Have you seen APR's home office? They have their own R&D team... 99% of all tuning companies that have an R&D portion usually do the engineering work to determine spring rates & metal composition, then source it out to specific companies that make said product for a living. So Designed by APR, manufactured by ABC spring company
 

tampa_mk5

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Could someone explain to me what valve floating feels like?
Like crap. WOT pulls in 3rd/4th at 5500- car lunges forward and back, loss of power, backfires out of exhaust. Almost feels like you are hitting the brakes (momentum) even though your gas pedal is floored.
 

penance

Fakinsupa
So are these $600 springs the reason why my older MK5 APR K04 misfires like shit at anything near or over 5500RPM?
Sounds like it, if tampa_mk5 is right.
 

hockeystar17mnj

Ready to race!
So are these $600 springs the reason why my older MK5 APR K04 misfires like shit at anything near or over 5500RPM?

If its a TSI then that is a possibility
 
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