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kevinb671

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Picked up a new 2024 GTI 380 Autobahn a week ago. Coming off a 2023 Camaro SS 1LE. The car is plenty lively stock and I'm not looking for a 350 WHP monster, but reading how easy it is to add more power, I wouldn't mind waking it up a little bit. To that end, what are my options for getting my car up to, say, Clubsport numbers?

At what point would I need to worry about upgrading the stock clutch?
I bought this car in part because of its fuel efficiency and because it uses 87—would a mild tune allow me to remain somewhat efficient still using 87?
Is it a given that a tune will void your powertrain warranty?
Is APR's powertrain coverage a good option? And how would that work with the extended protection plan I added when I bought the car?

Finally, to those of you who've tuned your cars, how has it impacted drivability/livability/reliability?
 

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konrvd_tokyo

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Congratulations on the new car. I picked mine up back in September and it's been so much fun. Following your post because I am in the exact same position. I have been considering a JB4 piggy back. Seems to be the way to go if you want to wake the car up a bit while not being worried about the powertrain warranty (since you can remove JB4) and the clutch.
 

mrmatto

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If you're looking for Clubsport numbers, any OTS "low torque" tune will do it. Go with APR Plus so you get the warranty, and they do offer an 87 octane tune. The APR Plus warranty is a powertrain warranty so the idea is that it would cover any powertrain issues your existing warranty does not.

A good OTS tune will be smooth and linear with no hiccups or herky-jerky throttle. Just like stock but...more. I've had APR tunes in the past and they're well refined and reliable. You'll find the same polish from Unitronic, 034, EQT, Racing Line...

You won't need to worry about your clutch until you're at high stage 2 numbers.

No, a tune doesn't guarantee you "void" your warranty. It depends on the dealer. But if a major powertrain issue happens, they are usually required to scan the ECU and then they'll likely find that you're tuned -- the powertrain stuff won't be covered anymore and your car will forever be flagged.

I wouldn't recommend a JB4. I used it. It's not a polished experience and the AFR is not well controlled.
 
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kevinb671

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If you're looking for Clubsport numbers, any OTS "low torque" tune will do it. Go with APR Plus so you get the warranty, and they do offer an 87 octane tune. The APR Plus warranty is a powertrain warranty so the idea is that it would cover any powertrain issues your existing warranty does not.

A good OTS tune will be smooth and linear with no hiccups or herky-jerky throttle. Just like stock but...more. I've had APR tunes in the past and they're well refined and reliable. You'll find the same polish from Unitronic, 034, EQT, Racing Line...

You won't need to worry about your clutch until you're at high stage 2 numbers.

No, a tune doesn't guarantee you "void" your warranty. It depends on the dealer. But if a major powertrain issue happens, they are usually required to scan the ECU and then they'll likely find that you're tuned -- the powertrain stuff won't be covered anymore and your car will forever be flagged.

I wouldn't recommend a JB4. I used it. It's not a polished experience and the AFR is not well controlled.
Thanks for the info. I've all but ruled out a piggyback; if I'm going to have it done, I want it done right. I'm fairly risk-averse, so leaning toward APR because they seem very highly respected and because of the warranty.

As for the clutch, I'm hearing that some start slipping at the first hard pull, but hopefully the odds of it happening to me are drastically lowered by simply choosing a more conservative tune. In the event I did have to replace the clutch, how much would that cost? Or is there something that could be done preliminarily to beef the clutch internals up a bit to avoid any issues altogether? On a conservative 87 tune, would I still preserve some semblance of good fuel economy?
 

kevinb671

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Congratulations on the new car. I picked mine up back in September and it's been so much fun. Following your post because I am in the exact same position. I have been considering a JB4 piggy back. Seems to be the way to go if you want to wake the car up a bit while not being worried about the powertrain warranty (since you can remove JB4) and the clutch.
I've read mixed information on whether or not simply removing a piggyback will make it invisible to a VW tech. There's also a consensus that the piggybacks aren't nearly as refined as an ECU flash. I though about it, and if I'm going to do it, I want the best (and best peace of mind) my money can buy.
 

mrmatto

Autocross Champion
Thanks for the info. I've all but ruled out a piggyback; if I'm going to have it done, I want it done right. I'm fairly risk-averse, so leaning toward APR because they seem very highly respected and because of the warranty.

As for the clutch, I'm hearing that some start slipping at the first hard pull, but hopefully the odds of it happening to me are drastically lowered by simply choosing a more conservative tune. In the event I did have to replace the clutch, how much would that cost? Or is there something that could be done preliminarily to beef the clutch internals up a bit to avoid any issues altogether? On a conservative 87 tune, would I still preserve some semblance of good fuel economy?
Clutch slipping on the first pull was generally a Mk7 issue. The previous gen's clutch was barely even adequate for stock power. I haven't heard of anyone having issues at stage 1 power levels on the stock Mk8 clutch, unless they're really riding the clutch heavily -- and that would cause clutch wear regardless.

Not sure the cost, but I'm sure someone here can chime in.

There are number of mods you can do to make the clutch more direct and responsive -- this will help with feel, and reduce some of the slipping that's "built in" stock. Search around this forum, also Vortex, and FB groups. There are how-tos. Removing the clutch delay valve is popular, as well as changing out the clutch pedal stop.

For the 87 tune, yes, you absolutely can retain excellent fuel efficiency. In fact, many people slightly better mpg on the highway with tunes. But it's all going to be up to you and how you drive it! It's hard to resist mashing the gas pedal down when you have a tune ;)
 

kevinb671

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Clutch slipping on the first pull was generally a Mk7 issue. The previous gen's clutch was barely even adequate for stock power. I haven't heard of anyone having issues at stage 1 power levels on the stock Mk8 clutch, unless they're really riding the clutch heavily -- and that would cause clutch wear regardless.

Not sure the cost, but I'm sure someone here can chime in.

There are number of mods you can do to make the clutch more direct and responsive -- this will help with feel, and reduce some of the slipping that's "built in" stock. Search around this forum, also Vortex, and FB groups. There are how-tos. Removing the clutch delay valve is popular, as well as changing out the clutch pedal stop.

For the 87 tune, yes, you absolutely can retain excellent fuel efficiency. In fact, many people slightly better mpg on the highway with tunes. But it's all going to be up to you and how you drive it! It's hard to resist mashing the gas pedal down when you have a tune ;)
It seems the Mk8 GTI uses the clutch from the Mk7 R, so I have to think it's more than up to the task, particularly if I'm looking for modest gains!
 
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