**Gun Enthusiast Thread**

[Hoon]

hey all,

complete noob here looking to purchase my first handgun. I've done some research and i have narrowed them down.

Purpose: range and home denfense

CZ P10 C or F
S&W M&P 2.0
SIG P320
WALTHER PPQ M2
HK VP9

so far i have visited 1 gun store in my area where they have 3 of the guns on my list and their prices are way too high compared to Brownells (online store my co worker recommended). what other websites you guys recommend? is it better to buy online?

thanks!

I recommend the one that is most ergonomic to your hand with the trigger, sights, etc you like best.

Your first handgun should be a reliable 9mm. Other than that, choose the features you like best. Tons of companies are making exceptional handguns these days. They each have their ups and downs but there is no wrong choice on your list.

Second purchase is a basic pistol class, 3rd purchase is 1000 rounds of target ammo to reinforce what you learned in class.

 

[eajr]

If you purchase online a FFL will have to do the transfer. Depending on what they charge for the paperwork it might offset any discount you got purchasing online.

Add glock 17/19 to the list

 

[sar316]

hey all,

complete noob here looking to purchase my first handgun. I've done some research and i have narrowed them down.

Purpose: range and home denfense

CZ P10 C or F
S&W M&P 2.0
SIG P320
WALTHER PPQ M2
HK VP9

so far i have visited 1 gun store in my area where they have 3 of the guns on my list and their prices are way too high compared to Brownells (online store my co worker recommended). what other websites you guys recommend? is it better to buy online?

thanks!

Agree whatever you save will probably be offset by the transfer fee. If they have gun shows in your area see how their prices are.

For home defense I'd get a 357 revolver(if a 12 gauge is out of the question). Accurate, more punch, no mags, no safety, no slide, no jams.

 

[eajr]

Agree whatever you save will probably be offset by the transfer fee. If they have gun shows in your area see how their prices are.

For home defense I'd get a 357 revolver(if a 12 gauge is out of the question). Accurate, more punch, no mags, no safety, no slide, no jams.

Good point on the 357, big flash, big bang, big hole lol.

 

[Hoon]

For home defense I'd get a 357 revolver(if a 12 gauge is out of the question). Accurate, more punch, no mags, no safety, no slide, no jams.

Must be why the police and military still use them.

Oh wait.

 

[Charlotte.:R]

Good point on the 357, big flash, big bang, big hole lol.

Magnums are a handful and I’d be leery of over penetration. I’d rather have 18 9mm than 6-8 38/357. And you can easily hang a light off a semi auto.

Does NJ limit magazine capacity? Might want to consider .45 if you’re limited to 10.....

 

[bl33dBlue21]

i appreciate everyone's responses, thank you! i found this small store by my work and i was really happy cause he has all the guns on my list which makes it a lot easier for me to decide which one feels best. his prices arent bad but ill visit couple more stores and compare.

M&P 2.0 & P320 are off the list lol

Magnums are a handful and I’d be leery of over penetration. I’d rather have 18 9mm than 6-8 38/357. And you can easily hang a light off a semi auto.

Does NJ limit magazine capacity? Might want to consider .45 if you’re limited to 10.....

yes only 10 in mag in NJ. im sticking with 9mm for now for my first but ill def move up in near future once i get comfortable.

 

[swcrow]

Must be why the police and military still use them.

Oh wait.

Eh. My M9 in the Army SUCKED with a capital S. standard 9mm ball ammo. Granted, home defense ammunition in a 9mm has come a LONG way.....it's the right balance of stopping power and capacity, because real life is not the movies and you WILL miss

i appreciate everyone's responses, thank you! i found this small store by my work and i was really happy cause he has all the guns on my list which makes it a lot easier for me to decide which one feels best. his prices arent bad but ill visit couple more stores and compare.

M&P 2.0 & P320 are off the list lol

yes only 10 in mag in NJ. im sticking with 9mm for now for my first but ill def move up in near future once i get comfortable.

My EDC is a Shield compact in .40....love it. Not sure about how the 2.0 fairs, but check out the older models

 

[eajr]

Eh. My M9 in the Army SUCKED with a capital S. standard 9mm ball ammo. Granted, home defense ammunition in a 9mm has come a LONG way.....it's the right balance of stopping power and capacity, because real life is not the movies and you WILL miss







My EDC is a Shield compact in .40....love it. Not sure about how the 2.0 fairs, but check out the older models

Nice to see another .40 guy out there, thought I was the only one left lol. My EDC is a Glock 23 gen 4.

 

[swcrow]

Nice to see another .40 guy out there, thought I was the only one left lol. My EDC is a Glock 23 gen 4.

There ya go! No, there are still a few .40 folks around.

 

[Hoon]

Eh. My M9 in the Army SUCKED with a capital S. standard 9mm ball ammo. Granted, home defense ammunition in a 9mm has come a LONG way.....it's the right balance of stopping power and capacity, because real life is not the movies and you WILL miss

My EDC is a Shield compact in .40....love it. Not sure about how the 2.0 fairs, but check out the older models

Yeah but im sure you'd rather have that M9 than a .357 wheel gun with ball ammo.

I love my .357, single action it's insanely accurate, but it's not a defensive firearm IMO...just much better options for that.

My EDC is a Shield 9mm.

 

[swcrow]

My EDC is a Shield 9mm.

I wouldn't want a wheel gun in any combat sit, although I'm thinking of a hammerless for my wife's EDC/home defense. I've actually considered moving to that shield model for my EDC

 

[Charlotte.:R]

I love my .357, single action it's insanely accurate, but it's not a defensive firearm IMO...just much better options for that.

My EDC is a Shield 9mm.

I have a few revolvers and they’re fantastic range toys, but I wouldn’t seriously consider them for much else. That being said, J-Frames are really easy to conceal, but for the stated purpose of home defense and range time, no way. I want something semiautomatic that I can run a light on.

 

[bl33dBlue21]

My EDC is a Shield compact in .40....love it. Not sure about how the 2.0 fairs, but check out the older models

yesterday i went to shoot the M&P 2.0 again, this time i did really well. i also shot the VP9 and PPQ m2. i kept coming back to M&P...

 

[Hoon]

yesterday i went to shoot the M&P 2.0 again, this time i did really well. i also shot the VP9 and PPQ m2. i kept coming back to M&P...

Buy the M&P then. They're excellent guns.

 

[Charlotte.:R]

Buy the M&P then. They're excellent guns.

+1 my FIL has a full size 9mm, nice trigger, shoots great.

And S&W has fantastic customer service.

 

[swcrow]

LOVE mine

 

[imthanick_a]

Eh. My M9 in the Army SUCKED with a capital S. standard 9mm ball ammo. Granted, home defense ammunition in a 9mm has come a LONG way.....it's the right balance of stopping power and capacity, because real life is not the movies and you WILL miss







My EDC is a Shield compact in .40....love it. Not sure about how the 2.0 fairs, but check out the older models

I have a 92A1 and absolutely love it. Didn't like the idea of a plastic guide rod (even though I know they're not a problem for normal use, just like our plastic oil pans lol) so I swapped it for a stainless steel one, and the trigger pull was really heavy on double action so I swapped the hammer spring and it completely transformed the gun. cut the trigger pull by a few pounds and made the action so much smoother. My CCW instructor took a few shots with it and was very impressed. Also a family friend who has a 92FS and hates it with a passion (almost gave it to me for free he hated it so much) shot it and decided to keep it after asking how I made mine feel so much better than the way it came.

I want to say I only spent around 30 bucks for the springs and guide rod and it was money very well spent. Although I wish it came that way from the factory

 

[Hoon]

I have a 92A1 and absolutely love it. Didn't like the idea of a plastic guide rod (even though I know they're not a problem for normal use, just like our plastic oil pans lol) so I swapped it for a stainless steel one, and the trigger pull was really heavy on double action so I swapped the hammer spring and it completely transformed the gun. cut the trigger pull by a few pounds and made the action so much smoother. My CCW instructor took a few shots with it and was very impressed. Also a family friend who has a 92FS and hates it with a passion (almost gave it to me for free he hated it so much) shot it and decided to keep it after asking how I made mine feel so much better than the way it came.

I want to say I only spent around 30 bucks for the springs and guide rod and it was money very well spent. Although I wish it came that way from the factory

Guide rods don't really matter, their only function is to keep the spring centered.

Bent, melted, etc and it has no effect on most guns. Glocks will run with no guide rod at all. This is why factories cheap out and use plastic...it's not a critical component.

 

[imthanick_a]

Guide rods don't really matter, their only function is to keep the spring centered.

Bent, melted, etc and it has no effect on most guns. Glocks will run with no guide rod at all. This is why factories cheap out and use plastic...it's not a critical component.

I know. Just a peace of mind thing for me. Plus it looks nicer with a recessed screw head in the front instead of an injection molded piece of plastic with flashing on it. It was a $25 amazon part so not a big deal.