Sorry to butt in but relevant question. I'm only Stage 1 with EQT, how normal is to see ANY knock on the AP (average I see sometimes is -0.75 and -1.20)? Should I be expecting for the average to always be 0 or is it part of normal operation of the engine for it to see some?
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Knock retard at low rpm / light load
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jimlloyd40
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That's not bad at all. Lots of other factors could influence the knock like fuel quality and high temperatures for a couple.
JerseyDrew77
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For the most part, you should be seeing 0. Do you have a DSG or MT? Every now and then I see an average of 0.38 - 0.75 when rowing through the gears but I just ignore it because 9 out of 10 it's going to be false knock due to shifting.
Update: I tested the EQT Stage 2 tune back to back with 5150's Stage 2 THOTS tune. The 5150 has far smoother power delivery and feels like its much more usable power. EQT's tune is fairly aggressive in that regard, it feels like the engine is really straining to do its thing. The 5150 tune makes the same power but does it in a way that feels like the car came from the factory this way. Knock is also down to zero on pulls and half as much under regular driving conditions. From what I gather, the THOTS tune is designed for california 91 octane and environment.
JerseyDrew77
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Are you sure you don't have that mixed up? The reason I ask is that Ed is on the conservative side with his tunes and not aggressive, with a very smooth, linear powerband. Well, at least with his protune he is, I never had his OTS tunes.
Im sure. I have gathered a lot of data regarding the two tunes, and it seems like the EQT just has somethin about it that the car doesnt like. I get lots of knock and the power delivery is wacky. Im sure a protune would be far better, but as far as the OTS tunes go this is what I have found to be the case.
Diggs24
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Your 5150 tune runs anywhere from 3 to 5 degrees less timing. Of course it isn't pulling any timing, it isn't running any, lol. If it feels better to you then run it.
Any downsides to this? I would still get knock on the stock Stage 0 map, so whatever is going on with this 5150 tune, I like it.
El_bigote_AJ
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Downside would be less power *based on if the EQT was indeed performing optimal for your gas / hardware, when it’s pulling time due to knock your final time between the would then end up being lower on the eqt.
just run what one you like, just don’t expect “golfmk7” group to back anything that opposes EQT as king of MQB tunes, lol *in this specific case I think you’re either running some real bad gas or something is up like spark plugs... what brand gas are you running?
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Diggs24
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It runs more boost to make it up. I’d prefer it over the eqt too.
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Diggs24
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EQT tune looking good bro.datazap.me/u/username, go private if you want to hide from Diggs data sweeps.
You should see my privated before HPFP upgrade, up to 12ms injection time.EQT tune looking good bro.
