scrapin240
Drag Racing Champion
Just don't get embarrassed at a stoplight against one. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds.
let's see who wins in a race from say NY to VA
Just don't get embarrassed at a stoplight against one. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds.
Just don't get embarrassed at a stoplight against one. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds.
And yet people criticise them for not "feeling the same"! Yes, they are in a different category. The Tesla 3 Performance, fwiw, was quicker around the race track than all its contemporary petrol engined peers, so not just good at drag strips either.Lol, I'm not one to race from a light anyway.. especially not in a GTI. These cars are made for the circuit courses, not dragstrips.
Besides, that's like lining up next to a street bike and initiating a race you'll surely lose. EVs are in a different category.
I have input on this, please be nice.
We have a bunch of EVs in our area, most of them Teslas. I've fortunately been able to experience a model 3 dual motor and a model x p90d. The acceleration is unreal, sure, but Teslas have a lot of quirks and things about them in general that turn me off to them.
For one thing the interiors are sleek, but bland, not to mention kind of tacky. The huge screens give you a lot, but visually are ugly and in the long run impractical.
Another thing, there is zero mechanical link between the road and the driver. Lots of cars have electric steering and throttle control, but for me, not feeling the engine's force or the tightness of the steering is something I can't have on a daily basis. I know they're pretty good at simulating it, but in reality it's not the same.
BUT, my biggest issue with electric cars is their "performance". The instant torque is unbeatable for acceleration, sure. However, in reality teslas are only capable of consistent high performance acceleration maybe 3 or 4 times before the motors get too hot. A Tesla really would struggle under very spirited driving. Even if it didn't "suffer", the performance wouldn't be consistent with the performance when you first get in the car. An ICE car can give consistent, reliable performance when you push it (granted, that does depend in the car)
In my opinion, Teslas aren't the way to go right now. They need to refine the batteries and the power delivery to give a truly consistent performance. If there's an EV to keep an eye on, it's the Taycan. Porsche is known for putting immense value on consistent performance, and they've spent enough time and research on EVs that the Taycan could be an incredible machine. Even if the specs don't match the Tesla's, it has the endurance to win on the track.
That's my opinion. I probably spent too much time writing about it...
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BUT, my biggest issue with electric cars is their "performance". The instant torque is unbeatable for acceleration, sure. However, in reality teslas are only capable of consistent high performance acceleration maybe 3 or 4 times before the motors get too hot. A Tesla really would struggle under very spirited driving. Even if it didn't "suffer", the performance wouldn't be consistent with the performance when you first get in the car. An ICE car can give consistent, reliable performance when you push it (granted, that does depend in the car)
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Just don't get embarrassed at a stoplight against one. 0 to 60 in 3.2 seconds.
Just a thought but it would be cool if EV's offer a "boost"-like function (button/third pedal) where the motor actually outputs 100% for a short period like 5-7 seconds. After, the motor would return to a standard maybe 70% output where the boost function would recharge/cooldown to be used again. pretty much like a racing game with NOS lol.
imo EV's need more drama to win over ICE enthusiasts. right now its just 0-60 times which many car enthusiasts dont really see as a deal breaking/making stat. with the tech we have today and the car being electric im sure something can be done. weird torque curves, NOS power buttons lol etc.
I suspect you'll find the motor never outputs 100%, at all, and the limits to acceleration are entirely down to the temperature control on the battery packs, for now.
This is supported by the fact that Ludicrous mode on the Model S PxxD came out as a software update, so yes the car got more torque just by a software update.
I think some people are using their rose tinted glasses again, and the forum is starting to sound a lot like a bunch of people discussing CDs on a record collector's forum ..
So, perhaps the Tesla version of electric cars doesn't float your boat (it was designed from the ground up to be fast but utterly conventional in every other way), but let's see what happens when the same drivetrain is lifted and dropped in a car made by a company that's been building cars and tuning chassis for five decades, we will see what this technology can really do, and perhaps bring back some of the "driver involvement", which frankly disappeared the moment power steering was invented anyway.
It is relatively understandable as to why the model 3 (and most EVs) do well on a track. They have the torque to get up to speed, and their center of gravity is incredibly low.
But, I think there's still a reason why EVs haven't made it into racing leagues besides formula e. I don't know if its endurance issues or overheating or what.
Whatever it is, I'm going to wait a while before I jump on the bandwagon.
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