sterkrazzy
Autocross Champion
You don't even need to shift, when you have family.
Depends. Dsg is A LOT faster on track where you're always foot to the floor upshift and foot deep in the brake on downshift. At these times it recognizes what you're doing and flips gears stupid fast, and the boost hold is great for keeping power.Honestly I think that’s the route I’m going to go aswell. I’m never ever in traffic, and honestly I’m scared that if I get a dsg ill eventually miss driving manual. How much faster is the dsg really?
Id go as far as saying less than a second advantage if any for an advanced driver. Gotta know how to really work your feet but once you do the gap goes away a lot.Depends. Dsg is A LOT faster on track where you're always foot to the floor upshift and foot deep in the brake on downshift. At these times it recognizes what you're doing and flips gears stupid fast, and the boost hold is great for keeping power.
For a novice driver, on a ~2 min course the dsg is worth 4-5 seconds. For an intermediate driver probably 2-3s, and for an advanced driver about 1-2s. You can also drop into 2nd gear on hairpins that only need it briefly where a manual would be too slow and not worth the shift. Google "NASA TT Calculator". There's a power to weight adjustment against the dual clutch transmissions for a reason.
On the street, manual will be faster. Unless you're foot flat to the floor the dsg can't read your mind and know you want to flip from 6th to 3rd. It will stutter for a bit until it figures it out and then hit gear and go.
Agreed. Depends on the course. My home course is always in my mind, and there are two areas where I drop to 2nd gear and even shift into 4th for just a second at best. If it was manual there would be no point; I'd either ride out the lack of boost under the turbo threshold or bump the Rev limiter. A couple tenths here, a few tenths there....Id go as far as saying less than a second advantage if any for an advanced driver. Gotta know how to really work your feet but once you do the gap goes away a lot.
Great point with those mods you mentioned. I did all of them. Changing the shifter was a revelation lol. I went with a Raceseng knob that weighs about a pound.To everyone saying the DSG is great or that it does a better job than you could do with a manual - maybe I don't know how to drive one properly? When I drove my brother's DSG, I felt like it was either in the wrong gear, was too slow to downshift, and was a little clunky in stop and go traffic. When I was driving it hard in manual mode with the paddles it was great, but left to do its own thing I felt like I was smoother and better with my manual.
Also, the manual with ~$2k worth of mods (clutch, flywheel, shifter and the free CDV and spring mods) feels legitimately pretty great. Stock I thought the clutch and shifter were both vague, but now my car has a very firm pedal with plenty of feedback and a notchy shifter. It's not Honda good but it's damn good for an "economy" car.
Laughed so hard at auto shifting manual. You can't be seriousI've driven various mt all my driving life, DSG is just too cool.
I don't want an auto, but a auto shifting manual? Yes please!
Wish I could get that in a truck.
In the words of a humble mechanic, "it's two manual transmissions that work together and just so happen to have an electronic brain controlling the clutch."Laughed so hard at auto shifting manual. You can't be serious
It's an automatic.
In the words of a humble mechanic, "it's two manual transmissions that work together and just so happen to have an electronic brain controlling the clutch."
Its not as fun as a standard transmission, but it's certainly fun. Certainly far better than a slushbox, and it lowers the entry point skill level for the driver. Lower skill level means you get more take rate overall, and that's great for all of us .
Dang, had no idea my friendly comment was so uncivilized...
Laughed so hard at auto shifting manual. You can't be serious
It's an automatic.