rrdubbb
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- Location
- North Carolina, USA
- Car(s)
- 2019 Golf R DSG
Background: 7.5R, stage 1 tune but stock parts including DCC suspension, 19inch Pretorias. Tons of comparos on here and elsewhere regarding the DWS/DWS+ vs PSAS3/4s, etc. Went with DWS06 plus (235/35R19), seemed like a great option for me on paper. I was looking for a comfortable DD/street tire in the 19inch size first off, and looking at all-seasons as wanted something that could handle a lot of rain, the occasional snow well and significant temp changes intraday. Something without a big penalty at 40F. I wasn't expecting amazing track tire performance but something that would perform fairly good.
After 600 miles, I find them little different to stock ContiSportContact 5p in some areas, better in others, worse in some.
As far as comfort is concerned, plenty of road nose, thought would be a bit better. Acceptable after first few hundred miles. Primary Front/back grip is quite good and is a high point, as good as I could expect from an all-season honestly, maybe a smidgen slimy in the higher end of my temp range (expected for AS vs summer compounds). Puddles and heavy rain - truly excellent, no problems there. No snow yet.
What I don't love is the dry lateral feel, particularly at low speeds and anywhere even approaching the limit (eg turning and accelerating onto a fastish off-camber freeway on-ramps, exiting corner flat to slight off-camber spirited driving). To describe it, feels like a it looses traction laterally quite easy followed by regrip, a stuttering feeling, mostly front but I think rears too under acceleration. Understeer almost seems worse than stock tires. No audible squeal signal either. No TC lights. Looking at the tires I think I am dealing with some sidewall deflection/sidewall rolling. Don't see any feathering but am watching closely. Quite possibly could be an "excessive tread height" feeling. Almost feels better letting the body roll more in comfort mode on DCC.
Anyway, I don't have a huge breath of experience with lots of tires on this car, but just wondering if anyone had similar experiences as most of the takes on the DWS06 are very positive. Thinking If I wanted to improve these dynamics I could spring for camber plates and possibly front tower brace? Not necessarily to compensate for the tire since that seems backwards, but just improve the vehicle dynamics in general.
EDIT/Update:
So I have put another ~1500 miles on DWS06+ in mostly 30-50 Deg mixed weather. I must say, I truly appreciate the advice given here about tire pressure. Thank you! Getting these bang on 39PSI all round made a HUGE difference as far as the dry turn-in is concerned. They were 35-36PSI from the shop (IIRC installed on a hot day?) I am truly amazed at how much difference 3 lbs made. I've not noticed any change with front-back grip lacking on launches etc, at least with a stage 1 tune. Turn-in is just fine now. I think they are now probably pretty excellent as an all-season tire. Ive gone from perhaps slightly disappointed to 9/10 impressed. After driving though a few serious storms too I can say If you are looking for a rain tire, this is *your* tire.
Just wanted to edit my comments incase anyone else reads this - these tires loveeee a few more pounds!
After 600 miles, I find them little different to stock ContiSportContact 5p in some areas, better in others, worse in some.
As far as comfort is concerned, plenty of road nose, thought would be a bit better. Acceptable after first few hundred miles. Primary Front/back grip is quite good and is a high point, as good as I could expect from an all-season honestly, maybe a smidgen slimy in the higher end of my temp range (expected for AS vs summer compounds). Puddles and heavy rain - truly excellent, no problems there. No snow yet.
What I don't love is the dry lateral feel, particularly at low speeds and anywhere even approaching the limit (eg turning and accelerating onto a fastish off-camber freeway on-ramps, exiting corner flat to slight off-camber spirited driving). To describe it, feels like a it looses traction laterally quite easy followed by regrip, a stuttering feeling, mostly front but I think rears too under acceleration. Understeer almost seems worse than stock tires. No audible squeal signal either. No TC lights. Looking at the tires I think I am dealing with some sidewall deflection/sidewall rolling. Don't see any feathering but am watching closely. Quite possibly could be an "excessive tread height" feeling. Almost feels better letting the body roll more in comfort mode on DCC.
Anyway, I don't have a huge breath of experience with lots of tires on this car, but just wondering if anyone had similar experiences as most of the takes on the DWS06 are very positive. Thinking If I wanted to improve these dynamics I could spring for camber plates and possibly front tower brace? Not necessarily to compensate for the tire since that seems backwards, but just improve the vehicle dynamics in general.
EDIT/Update:
So I have put another ~1500 miles on DWS06+ in mostly 30-50 Deg mixed weather. I must say, I truly appreciate the advice given here about tire pressure. Thank you! Getting these bang on 39PSI all round made a HUGE difference as far as the dry turn-in is concerned. They were 35-36PSI from the shop (IIRC installed on a hot day?) I am truly amazed at how much difference 3 lbs made. I've not noticed any change with front-back grip lacking on launches etc, at least with a stage 1 tune. Turn-in is just fine now. I think they are now probably pretty excellent as an all-season tire. Ive gone from perhaps slightly disappointed to 9/10 impressed. After driving though a few serious storms too I can say If you are looking for a rain tire, this is *your* tire.
Just wanted to edit my comments incase anyone else reads this - these tires loveeee a few more pounds!
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