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StorableComa

StorableComa

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jimlloyd40 said:
But what started that?
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What started what? The big bang? It's very easy to google the theory and read it for yourself, but the TLDR version:

All known matter is hanging out, crushing it, getting all hot. Increasing to unseen or perhaps even understood temperatures. Goes boom as hot atoms like to shed that energy by moving and being active, not smashed next to each other.

This giant explosion releases the early ingredients of the early known universe. Giant stars hungrily grow to sizes we don't normally observe in closer based objects - As looking at farther away objects is technically looking back in time, it took X amount of years for that light to even reach us. These giants quickly burn their enough of their fuel that they can't support their mass and explode, scattering even more complex matter further into the galaxy. Gravity comes back in and things start clumping again, but never shed that initial inertia as there is little friction in space.
 
jimlloyd40

jimlloyd40

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StorableComa said:
What started what? The big bang? It's very easy to google the theory and read it for yourself, but the TLDR version:

All known matter is hanging out, crushing it, getting all hot. Increasing to unseen or perhaps even understood temperatures. Goes boom as hot atoms like to shed that energy by moving and being active, not smashed next to each other.

This giant explosion releases the early ingredients of the early known universe. Giant stars hungrily grow to sizes we don't normally observe in closer based objects - As looking at farther away objects is technically looking back in time, it took X amount of years for that light to even reach us. These giants quickly burn their enough of their fuel that they can't support their mass and explode, scattering even more complex matter further into the galaxy. Gravity comes back in and things start clumping again, but never shed that initial inertia as there is little friction in space.
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It can keep getting deeper. Where did the "matter" come from?
 
GTIfan99

GTIfan99

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JC_451 said:
Black hole, beyond super massive.

Probably from collapse of previous universe.
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Probably not collapse of previous universe with recent discovery that expansion is accelerating, not slowing.
 
StorableComa

StorableComa

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jimlloyd40 said:
It can keep getting deeper. Where did the "matter" come from?
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Does your questioning have a point, or are you attempting to say it's easier to say something waved it's hand and it was so? Because we cannot currently answer a question with authority, doesn't make it anymore believable that a higher power did it and we're all just puppets on a stage. IF we want to go that route, it's just as creditable to say Aliens put us here for their amusement:
 
JC_451

JC_451

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GTIfan99 said:
Probably not collapse of previous universe with recent discovery that expansion is accelerating, not slowing.
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To begin the big bang to need to stuff the whole universe back into a bread basket.

Since the universe that is there now, is there now, the matter had to come from a previous iteration of the universe. Its impossible to measure anything like this since it's pure (simplified) theory.
 
uglybastard

uglybastard

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StorableComa said:
What started what? The big bang? It's very easy to google the theory and read it for yourself, but the TLDR version:

All known matter is hanging out, crushing it, getting all hot. Increasing to unseen or perhaps even understood temperatures. Goes boom as hot atoms like to shed that energy by moving and being active, not smashed next to each other.

This giant explosion releases the early ingredients of the early known universe. Giant stars hungrily grow to sizes we don't normally observe in closer based objects - As looking at farther away objects is technically looking back in time, it took X amount of years for that light to even reach us. These giants quickly burn their enough of their fuel that they can't support their mass and explode, scattering even more complex matter further into the galaxy. Gravity comes back in and things start clumping again, but never shed that initial inertia as there is little friction in space.
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That's a lot if words for "god said 'make it so' and it was good"
 
jimlloyd40

jimlloyd40

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StorableComa said:
Does your questioning have a point, or are you attempting to say it's easier to say something waved it's hand and it was so? Because we cannot currently answer a question with authority, doesn't make it anymore believable that a higher power did it and we're all just puppets on a stage. IF we want to go that route, it's just as creditable to say Aliens put us here for their amusement:
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Possibly. The point is however the universe started it had to start from something. I'm not trying to be contrary. I just can't wrap my brain around how there was nothing and now this. Something had to create the nothing that started the universe. But whatever that was had to come from something. And that something had to be created by something else. It's never ending.
 
StorableComa

StorableComa

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jimlloyd40 said:
Possibly. The point is however the universe started it had to start from something. I'm not trying to be contrary. I just can't wrap my brain around how there was nothing and now this. Something had to create the nothing that started the universe. But whatever that was had to come from something. And that something had to be created by something else. It's never ending.
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The big bang doesn't state we came from nothing, it states EVERYTHING was once a whole and because of how we observe matter and gravity to work - wouldn't stay that way for long. The various complex chemicals we can observe on earth had to be of been created elsewhere as the heat and pressure required to form matter into those compositions isn't able to be replicated on our, or our suns scale for the most part. The big bang rests on the theory that matter can neither BE CREATED nor DESTROYED. We can merely alter the shape and form that matter takes based on the energy given or removed from it.
 
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