oddspyke
Autocross Champion
I mean, I know what I think you meant to type, but could it have been a Freudian slip?
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The COVID19 SCAMdemic... California Nears $8 Gallon Gas - Biden Sends Zelenskyyy $61 Billion
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torga
Autocross Champion
All this math only to make the same error again. If we have number X of vaccinated people and number Y of infected/recovered, but some fraction of X includes some fraction of Y, then the resulting number will always be lower than X+Y, not higher. That's basic algebra. Everything you're doing up until this point is reasonable and sound. We can't say how much the total amount of people with a degree of resistance is without knowing how many people that have been infected/recovered also got a vaccine.
torga
Autocross Champion
I will admit I was wrong in that case. I'm still right that there's no evidence that vaccine-induced spike causes the same damage as wild spike. But I'm not getting back into it with you. Neither of us know when to quit, so I'm making the decision for us.
zrickety
The Fixer
I don't trust the CDC further than I can throw them, but even they admit that deaths are near zero now.
All these cases are worthless numbers with an inaccurate test. Anything to keep the fake pandemic going.
Escape Hatch
Autocross Champion
You are a little pretentious ass aren't you? I am done with your games, just as bad as greta but again, thanks for concluding the obvious in an attempt to add some value, which you did not.
torga
Autocross Champion
Cheers.
zrickety
The Fixer
Isn't the whole idea of the vaccine that the spike protein mimics the virus so your body will fight it?? Do you really think there is a spike protein that doesn't cause damage? Let's follow this to the obvious conclusion...
torga
Autocross Champion
Now, I did not say doesn't cause damage. I said doesn't cause the same damage. We know that there are some nonzero number of potential ill effects from the vaccine.
If you're wrong on the simple concepts, isn't there a high likelihood you're also going to be wrong on the more complex topics you've tried to debate? Think about it. If someone fails arithmetic they're probably not going to best someone at geometry.
And yes I did notice your usual play on semantics again. I never claimed the mRNA spike induced the same damage. I already admitted it does not when we discussed the 3 fold increased risk of myocarditis vs whatever it was for the wild. Informing you that it does not fuse cells would also imply it's not as damaging. However, it is still cytotoxic (my only argument), even if it is not as cytotoxic as the wild. And again, it becomes increasingly more dangerous the more you boost.
Don't tap out while still spewing bs.
Escape Hatch
Autocross Champion
Correcting. Thanks for the call out.
torga
Autocross Champion
I know that you never claimed that the mRNA spike doesn't induce the same damage. You called them dangerous, and they can be. But then you tried to prove that mRNA spike is dangerous by only providing sources that prove that wild spike is dangerous. Do you see why we got lost in the sauce? I've tried to make this point multiple times before, but you just push past it and kept talking about wild spike, all while I provided evidence that mRNA spike doesn't behave the same way as wild spike. That's why I'm done, because you don't listen.
zrickety
The Fixer
Then why are you claiming you were right about something that was never being debated? This is what pisses me off about you. You have no business questioning anyone else when you constantly say stupid shit like this.
As to your other point, I explained to you what the differences are between the two. I explained how both behave within the body. So, no it's not me who has gotten lost or ignored anything.