brat_burner
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ftfyForget the subject matter. WE created the all time number 1 thread in the forum.
ftfyForget the subject matter. WE created the all time number 1 thread in the forum.
I just want to point out, I did google that like you did, and I got the nih.gov link like you did.... but guess what, that is just an article published by some guy "Robert Evans" about issues in Canada! This article was mostly about Canada! So now you're quoting articles against publicly traded non-govt drug companies and supporting socialized medicine such as the universal system from Canada???? See below:
A closer relationship with Pfizer, and the drug industry generally, may indeed promote greater commercialization of Canadian research. If so, Pfizer and other shareholders will reap the benefits, as will those Canadian researchers who become their “out-house” (as opposed to in-house) research departments. Dr. Beaudet's political masters, apparently believing that an expanded drug industry is an end in itself regardless of the consequences for the health of Canadians or the costs of healthcare, will also be pleased. All economic activity – beneficial, harmful or just plain ineffectual – is included in the gross domestic product. Illegal and corrupt marketing practices, and the drugs they promote, all contribute to “economic growth” as well as drug company profit.
But Pfizer's track record inspires no confidence whatever that the health of Canadians will benefit in proportion, if at all, from any such growth. What is certain is that any benefits in health or wealth from this relationship will be paid for, and over-paid, by Canadian patients, insurers and taxpayers. Dr. Beaudet has allowed the commercialization mandate to override CIHR's responsibilities to Canadians. Pfizer is not an eleemosynary outfit.
You are an idiot. Smh.I just want to point out, I did google that like you did, and I got the nih.gov link like you did.... but guess what, that is just an article published by some guy "Robert Evans" about issues in Canada! This article was mostly about Canada! So now you're quoting articles against publicly traded non-govt drug companies and supporting socialized medicine such as the universal system from Canada???? See below:
We contributed Zrick started it to be fair about it.ftfy
Because it happened in Canada it doesn't matter or it's not applicable?I just want to point out, I did google that like you did, and I got the nih.gov link like you did.... but guess what, that is just an article published by some guy "Robert Evans" about issues in Canada! This article was mostly about Canada! So now you're quoting articles against publicly traded non-govt drug companies and supporting socialized medicine such as the universal system from Canada???? See below:
Pfizer has paid billions in fines. If you aren't going to accept any links we post then Google it yourself.I just want to point out, I did google that like you did, and I got the nih.gov link like you did.... but guess what, that is just an article published by some guy "Robert Evans" about issues in Canada! This article was mostly about Canada! So now you're quoting articles against publicly traded non-govt drug companies and supporting socialized medicine such as the universal system from Canada???? See below:
I did, and didn't find them. You can't just google something, get a bad reference and then want everyone to accept it when the reference isn't backed up. As I stated in my previous post, the article related to Canada, and appeared on the NIH's website, but was not written by the NIH. I could not find any evidence of the claimed $3B in fines.Pfizer has paid billions in fines. If you aren't going to accept any links we post then Google it yourself.
Well, first of all, we're talking about America. Do we really want to start branching out into Europe and other foreign countries? Also, that article does not provide any supporting information or detail regarding the $3B in fines claim. It seems to me that the article mixes up lawsuits with fines. I don't doubt Pfizer has paid out $3B in lawsuit settlements and losses over the last few decades, but I'm just not seeing evidence on the $3B in supposed "fines" which would have to be assessed by a governmental body of some sort.Because it happened in Canada it doesn't matter or it's not applicable?
Your master degrees are worthless. I Googled it again and there's plenty of links to credible sources including the US Justice Department. I'm not going to waste my time linking them because you won't accept any link that's not yours. You can check these out.I did, and didn't find them. You can't just google something, get a bad reference and then want everyone to accept it when the reference isn't backed up. As I stated in my previous post, the article related to Canada, and appeared on the NIH's website, but was not written by the NIH. I could not find any evidence of the claimed $3B in fines.
Ok, I agree, that first article did provide evidence of $2.3 Billion of that $3B claim...Your master degrees are worthless. I Googled it again and there's plenty of links to credible sources including the US Justice Department. I'm not going to waste my time linking them because you won't accept any link that's not yours. You can check these out.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Pfizer+fines+&t=fpas&ia=web
They all do.Ok, I agree, that first article did provide evidence of $2.3 Billion of that $3B claim...
I only read the first one. I'm not arguing the others do not. Why don't you just accept the fact that I agreed?They all do.
Ok I do. Thank you.I only read the first one. I'm not arguing the others do not. Why don't you just accept the fact that I agreed?