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Pacific Northwest bro.
Good call. Plus, Dan Diego. High 60's, low 70's year round...
Pacific Northwest bro.
Makes sense.
Damn, what an investment.
^^^^^
A vast money pit, but at that price, how far wrong could you go?
I will give you this on Detroit Rock City, Chris. Most places that have really cheap houses...."the blessed lands", according to one dude on here....^^^^whatever that means....are rural, meaning there's nothing to do, no restaurants, no intellectual stimulation anywhere in sight, no decent jobs, no fucking hope, and definitely no architecture.
In Detroit? Auto industry jobs, good food, and mansions for 90% off. And the great lakes are right there brah. I commend your decision....it's interesting.
I'm not sure what you'd do if you had kids in terms of school, that's the only thing....and I'm not trying to go down that road again.
Anyway, it's an interesting DINK option for sure.
A 30 year mortgage on $65,000 has you under like $500 a month including taxes. Jesus.
In 2012, Detroit had the highest rate of violent crime of any city over 200,000 in the Federal Bureau of Investigation's Uniform Crime Reports,
17.7% (Aug 2013)
Detroit, Unemployment rate
Umm... Yea...
5.0% (Aug 2013)
Mountain View, Unemployment rate
I get that it's cheap there... but fk that. Detroit is a cesspool
Meanwhile, in Detroit
http://www.zillow.com/homedetails/131-Arden-Park-Blvd-Detroit-MI-48202/88358724_zpid/
Edit: More photos here: http://detroit.curbed.com/archives/...d-65k-for-this-foreclosed-detroit-mansion.php
I will give you this on Detroit Rock City, Chris. Most places that have really cheap houses...."the blessed lands", according to one dude on here....^^^^whatever that means....are rural, meaning there's nothing to do, no restaurants, no intellectual stimulation anywhere in sight, no decent jobs, no fucking hope, and definitely no architecture.
In Detroit? Auto industry jobs, good food, and mansions for 90% off. And the great lakes are right there brah. I commend your decision....it's interesting.
I'm not sure what you'd do if you had kids in terms of school, that's the only thing....and I'm not trying to go down that road again.
Anyway, it's an interesting DINK option for sure.
Figure about $100k to get it up to par, it's still $165k for a mansion built when they didn't know what "cheap" meant. There's houses like this all over. Even our mini mansion built in the early 30's is of way higher quality than anything you could get new.
My wife and I looked in this area before buying our house. We just didn't want something so gigantic. Unnecessary for us.
That's what drew us here. Plenty of high paying work(I make more here than I did in SoCal), TONS of stuff to do, ridiculously cheap living, a lot of nature and "getting away from it all" within an hour drive. You really can't go wrong. I love this place dearly.
The unemployment rate is high because the vast majority of residents are low to no skilled, uneducated, lazy people. If you're smart and educated, there's tons of jobs here.
Violent crime is high because all those unemployed people just mess with each other, but it's rarely random. I've never been hassled, and I drive and walk through sketch areas. Don't be an idiot, don't act like a victim, don't get involved in any business that isn't you're own, and you'll be fine. It's just like any city...but the criminals just criminalize each other. My neighborhood is one of the safest in the surrounding areas. It's actually more dangerous in areas outside of Detroit. You don't shit where you sleep and what not.
17.7% (Aug 2013)I get that it's cheap there... but fk that. Detroit is a cesspool
$100k? I bet more like $600k+.... I mean every one of the probably 25 rooms in there would need to be redone and everything like plumbing and electrical is probably way outdated and not up to snuff, there would just be so much in something that big. Still though, it's a sweet castle for the money, no doubt about that. I couldn't do somewhere so cold though. The ghetto factor I'm sure could be worked around if you're smart about it, you and your wife seem to have a good handle on that.
That has been my thinking for the last decade. However, I gotta, say, your example and Chris' example....are at such extreme variance that I'd have to pause and think.
That MV place you listed has to be a total teardown. A million bucks for a teardown shack on a small lot....I'm not sure that's sustainable even close to all those tech jobs.
Anyway, Chris' stories continue to fascinate me. He and his wife can't be the only upwardly mobile couple who share his view of Detroit as a good investment.
Which is cool, because the place has really been sad for a long time.