Why does my DSG keep changing gear in manual mode?

[Buncy]

I have a 2017 mk7 GTD DSG, when the gearbox is in manual mode (Selector pushed to the left) it keeps down shifting when I accelerate?
What's the point of a manual mode if it's still changing gear of it's own accord.

 

[Fanis1]

Are you flooring the throttle? If so, this is what it's meant to do but it shouldn't downshift otherwise. This is a safety feature.

 

[Finglonga]

Sounds like it is protecting the gearbox or engine as you are in to high a gear. Even in full manual mode it wont let you damage the gearbox or engine.

 

[Buncy]

If I'm at 2,500 rpm in 3rd, it will down shift to second and bring the revs up to 4000 rpm. I'm not asking it to do anything that exceeds what the box can do.
This is the exact behaviour I would expect in auto mode but I can understand why it's changing in manual mode?
It's needs to be called auto with slight manual selection mode.

 

[Buncy]

So after a little research, it would seem that the kick down switch still operates in manual mode.

 

[Fanis1]

That's what I was talking about right at the beginning

 

[DangerousTheory]

I'm surprised it would kick down at 2,500 rpm.

 

[mkygod]

Not sure how it works in manual mode, but in automatic sport mode, it makes sense to me that it would downshift at 2,500rpm in order to maintain boost.

 

[shortyb]

Works that way in all modes to prevent load issues at low revs (low speed pre-ignition being a major one). Ask the engine to provide heavy acceleration (load) and the ECU has to make some radical adjustments to timing, fuel, ignition, etc. to deliver said demand. Increase rpms through gear reduction (kickdown) and ECU has better chance of meeting acceleration demand without the significant adjustments or issues. Plus it gets fat boost and makes your eyeballs flat .

Play around with pedal travel and you will get a feel for where the kickdown threshold is. Don't like having this in manual mode? Get a stick or a TCU flash.

 

[nate704]

You need to learn how to floor it without the kickdown. Constant rate of depressing the pedal is the key, and stop before the kickdown switch. It requires practice and patience.

 

[Finglonga]

So after a little research, it would seem that the kick down switch still operates in manual mode.

So, you're not bringing the revs up to 4000rpm you're flooring it?

 

[Jedimk7]

I drive around in manual mode and mine has never done that while cruising, only when I come to a stop or redline a few times?

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[KevinC]

Waiting for "mine doesn't do that" from some guy with 6MT.

 

[rip steakface]

I drive around in manual mode and mine has never done that while cruising, only when I come to a stop or redline a few times?

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I use my 2015 in manual (paddles) about 75% of the time, and mine has never shifted on its own in 36k+ miles, even in the most spirited driving. Not counting the shift into 1st from second when coming to a stop...

 

[Jedimk7]

I use my 2015 in manual (paddles) about 75% of the time, and mine has never shifted on its own in 36k+ miles, even in the most spirited driving. Not counting the shift into 1st from second when coming to a stop...

Yeah if I'm in 2nd and come to a stop light it will automatically shift me into 1st, only if I come to a complete stop?

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