Retrofitting Blind Spot Assist / Side Assist

[robin75]

Hi,
I know that is a GolfMK forum, but maybe someone know
I have Tiguan with Side Assist (with radars: 2Q0907686B 2Q0907685B).
If I put on radars from another Tiguan (pair from one car) can it work without recalibration?

Now I replaced only one (previous slave was lost) and now I have errors with I can't resolve.

 

[xabhax]

Autoscan?

 

[robin75]

3C Lane Change Assistant Right
    Active errors: 0
    Inactive errors: 2
    System description: HRE3_Kl15_Mst
    Software Number: 2Q0907686B
    Software version: 0148
    Control unit number: 2Q0907686B
    Control unit version: H06
    Serial number: 11230017364491
    ODX name: EV_HREntryHellaGen3Kl15
    ODX version: 002001
    Errors:
        B201200 - Data set implausible
            static
                Date: 2022-03-09 18:15:03
                Mileage: 31371 km
                Priority: 4
                Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                Unlearning counter: 40
        U101400 - Control module incorrectly coded
            static
                Date: 2022-03-09 18:14:49
                Mileage: 31371 km
                Priority: 4
                Malfunction frequency counter: 1
                Unlearning counter: 40

    Mileage: 31379 km
    Date: 2022-03-12 13:04

3C Backup included, but part information (eg. about 2Q0907685B) is only in "Live data" - scan from OBDeleven

 

[xabhax]

Did you recode them. Copy coding from your old modules to the new?

 

[robin75]

I didn't coded anything. I only connected slave radar (2Q0907685B) in the car. OBDeleven read correct data from this radar (like serial number).
How can I recode new radar? Is it possible via OBDeleven?

 

[davide.bonetti]

@robin75

you will pardon me if I am a little harsh, but you are simply a retrofit beginner. usually an error about DATA SET means the the module is not PARAMETERIZED correctly. and for that there is nothing you can do with OBD11 or VCDS, you will need at least VCP, but I trust ODIS more for this job.

as you progress into the job you'll also hopefully ditch OBD11 for a real diag tool

for calibration I am not sure, but my feeling is that the new generation 2Q0 radar will require calibration if moved around.

 

[xabhax]

You can use obd11 to code the slave. Did you buy the radars as a pair? Since there isn't a basic settings fault you might be able to get away with not calibrating. Both radars have to be the same part number, same hardware number same software number. So it's best if they are replaced as a set If you only have an obd11

 

[robin75]

@robin75


as you progress into the job you'll also hopefully ditch OBD11 for a real diag tool

I'm just an amateur now, maybe one day

 

[robin75]

You can use obd11 to code the slave. Did you buy the radars as a pair? Since there isn't a basic settings fault you might be able to get away with not calibrating. Both radars have to be the same part number, same hardware number same software number. So it's best if they are replaced as a set If you only have an obd11

Now I bought only one, but I can. Seller who sold me one have second from pair.
I was looking for a slave radar that would be most compatible with my master (the same software version, hardware version, date production etc.)
I need to choice: buy second master (cheaper if I can get it to work) or going to service center for recalibrate.

 

[xabhax]

Now I bought only one, but I can. Seller who sold me one have second from pair.
I was looking for a slave radar that would be most compatible with my master (the same software version, hardware version, date production etc.)
I need to choice: buy second master (cheaper if I can get it to work) or going to service center for recalibrate.

if it was me, id buy a set before getting calibration. You can recoup some of the money by selling your old ones.

 

[robin75]

if it was me, id buy a set before getting calibration. You can recoup some of the money by selling your old ones.

Probably I will buy second radar. Need/can I code it?
I'm very disappointed because I can't find details about present error - with parameter is wrong?

 

[xabhax]

It's just a guess, but maybe the radars are from two different kind of cars. Master from a tiguan and slave from something other than a tiguan. Only thing I can think of. If it was calibration related the error would be no basic settings, or calibration error or something along those lines.

You can code then with obd11. Copy your old coding and paste that into the new modules

 

[Slimshouki]

My car is Passat B8 (3G2) Engine CZCA 92KW 125hp year 2018.I dont have any assistance systems (lane change-back up camera-front radars) except driver assist which alarms me through dashboard if I am not holding a good grip. I went for blind spot retrofit and I bought 2 rear radar sensors (master & slave) for good price along with their fixation brackets and 2 exterior mirros to accommodate new blind spot indicators since mine didnt have.i replaced new high gateway instead of my own mid gateway since high gateway has extra extended canbus to see the new radar sensors. Unfortunately, after validating all wiring and doing every possible coding still both modules master Nd slave are throwing errors as shown below:

OBDeleven data log

Date: 2022-03-21 19:32

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZJE218466
Car: Volkswagen Passat
Year: 2018
Body type: Saloon
Engine: CZCA
Mileage: 86268 KM

---------------------------------------------------------------
01 Engine

System description: R4 1.4l TFS
Software number: 04E906027BR
Software version: 4369
Hardware number: 04E907309AC
Hardware version: H26
ODX name: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027BR
ODX version: 001008
Long coding: 0125003223241D083000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
02 Transmission

System description: GSG DQ200G2_M
Software number: 0CW300041N
Software version: 1608
Hardware number: 0AM927769E
Hardware version: H05
Serial number: CU501804167875
ODX name: EV_TCMDQ200021
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 0014

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
03 Brakes

System description: ESC
Software number: 5Q0614517CT
Software version: 0653
Hardware number: 5Q0614517AG
Hardware version: H62
Serial number: 61148000001307
ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
ODX version: 037009
Long coding: 0EEC6A8F34212374477B060660C94970562CC4E2600692712022F058C282420B00000012121212B835351919323200

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
08 Air Conditioning

System description: Climatronic
Software number: 5G0907044DN
Software version: 2001
Hardware number: 5G0907044DN
Hardware version: H04
ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
ODX version: 006146
Long coding: 11020004100100001015104012101822

Subsystems:
System description: E265KlimaHeck
Software version: 0201
Hardware version: H02
Serial number: 04031501850571
Long coding: 000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
09 Central Electrics

System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
Software number: 5Q0937086BJ
Software version: 0245
Hardware number: 5Q0937086BE
Hardware version: 034
Serial number: 8658270418017C
ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
ODX version: 018001

Subsystems:
System description: WWS 180407
Software version: 0607
Hardware version: 042
Serial number: 180413063822
Long coding: 0E4DDD

System description: RLHS
Software version: 0107
Hardware version: 050
Serial number: SBY18M05D02H16M24S27
Long coding: 00A8DD

System description: E1 - LDS MQB
Software version: 0032
Hardware version: H01
Serial number: 08 04 2018 10000028

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
15 Airbag

System description: Airbag VW21
Software number: 3Q0959655BG
Software version: 0703
Hardware number: 3Q0959655BG
Hardware version: 006
Serial number: 003W3P7M1YPN
ODX name: EV_AirbaVW21TS6VW48X
ODX version: 001014
Long coding: 88CCC000000000005C0000CF000800000065

Subsystems:
System description: SideSensor_Df
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 008
Serial number: 35700000000578D4503H
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pf
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 008
Serial number: 35800000000CF5F4503W
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Dr
Software version: 0148
Hardware version: 301
Serial number: 3510036733C140000005
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pr
Software version: 0148
Hardware version: 301
Serial number: 3520051A33B140000005
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: FrontSensor_D
Software version: 0149
Hardware version: 304
Serial number: 355003DEA3E14000000W
Long coding: 2D2D2D

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
16 Steering Column

System description: Lenks.Modul
Software number: 5Q0953521AF
Software version: 0235
Hardware number: 5Q0953569A
Hardware version: 075
Serial number: 20180505301370
ODX name: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB
ODX version: 001016
Long coding: 0010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
17 Dashboard

System description: KOMBI
Software number: 3G0920740C
Software version: 0310
Hardware number: 3G0920740C
Hardware version: 202
ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
ODX version: 009060
Long coding: 07A502082388800C01083B0C5001000000000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
19 Gateway

System description: GW MQB High
Software number: 3Q0907530AA
Software version: 5364
Hardware number: 3Q0907530C
Hardware version: 521
Serial number: 27051811600502
ODX name: EV_GatewNF
ODX version: 013025
Long coding: 030300047F085708FB0002481C0F00010001070000000000000000000000

Subsystems:
System description: 2-07-1f-07-1f

System description: J367-BDMConti
Software version: 1050
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 758860000018050102FF

System description: E221__MFL-DC1
Software version: 0103
Hardware version: H17
Serial number: 39180000692910128157
Long coding: 28FFFF

System description: Analoguhr
Software version: 1004
Hardware version: 111
Serial number: 1704201800010173

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
3C Lane Change Assistant Right

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907566B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907566
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B201200 - Data set implausible
static
C111454 - Lane change assistance control module No basic setting
static
C111554 - Lane change assistance control module 2 No basic setting
static
U112300 - Databus error value received
static
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static


---------------------------------------------------------------
42 Driver Door

System description: TSG FS
Software number: 5Q0959593E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959593B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 160418EDB17156
ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 00310B20DC00020000001000

Subsystems:
System description: Fond FHSG DRV
Software version: 0002
Hardware version: 007
Serial number: 00000000000009195910
Long coding: 010000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
44 Steering Assistance

System description: MQB_VWBS_GEN2
Software number: 5Q0910143C
Software version: 2211
Hardware number: 5Q0910143
Hardware version: 212
Serial number: 820019 00
ODX name: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBGen2
ODX version: 002119
Long coding: 0100001000400010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
52 Passenger Door

System description: TSG BFS
Software number: 5Q0959592E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959592B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 210418EDL12901
ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 00310120DC00020000001000

Subsystems:
System description: Fond FHSG PSG
Software version: 0002
Hardware version: 007
Serial number: 00000000000009187879
Long coding: 090000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
5F Multimedia

System description: MU-S--ER
Software number: 3Q0035824C
Software version: 0891
Hardware number: 3Q0035824C
Hardware version: 722
ODX name: EV_MUStd4CDELP
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 02840100FF00000051110001001828001F0410C40120010002

Subsystems:
System description: ABT_Std-2
Software version: 8130
Hardware version: H52
Serial number: VWZ6ZJV1080133

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
6C Rear View Camera

System description: RVC Compact
Software number: 5Q0980556
Software version: 0170
Hardware number: 5Q0980556
Hardware version: H09
ODX name: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB
ODX version: 005007
Long coding: 0184010162002017000040

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
76 Parking Assistance

System description: PDC 8 Kanal
Software number: 5QA919294E
Software version: 0443
Hardware number: 5QA919294
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 00030841801810135866
ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
ODX version: 009035
Long coding: 0471155051

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
B7 Start System Interface

System description: VWKESSYMQB
Software number: 3Q0959435F
Software version: 0907
Hardware number: 3Q0959435F
Hardware version: 027
Serial number: 0478532326
ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
ODX version: 004041
Long coding: 102F0F0723

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
CF Lane Change Assistant Left

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907590B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907590
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static

 

[xabhax]

My car is Passat B8 (3G2) Engine CZCA 92KW 125hp year 2018.I dont have any assistance systems (lane change-back up camera-front radars) except driver assist which alarms me through dashboard if I am not holding a good grip. I went for blind spot retrofit and I bought 2 rear radar sensors (master & slave) for good price along with their fixation brackets and 2 exterior mirros to accommodate new blind spot indicators since mine didnt have.i replaced new high gateway instead of my own mid gateway since high gateway has extra extended canbus to see the new radar sensors. Unfortunately, after validating all wiring and doing every possible coding still both modules master Nd slave are throwing errors as shown below:

OBDeleven data log

Date: 2022-03-21 19:32

VIN: WVWZZZ3CZJE218466
Car: Volkswagen Passat
Year: 2018
Body type: Saloon
Engine: CZCA
Mileage: 86268 KM

---------------------------------------------------------------
01 Engine

System description: R4 1.4l TFS
Software number: 04E906027BR
Software version: 4369
Hardware number: 04E907309AC
Hardware version: H26
ODX name: EV_ECM14TFS01104E906027BR
ODX version: 001008
Long coding: 0125003223241D083000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
02 Transmission

System description: GSG DQ200G2_M
Software number: 0CW300041N
Software version: 1608
Hardware number: 0AM927769E
Hardware version: H05
Serial number: CU501804167875
ODX name: EV_TCMDQ200021
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 0014

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
03 Brakes

System description: ESC
Software number: 5Q0614517CT
Software version: 0653
Hardware number: 5Q0614517AG
Hardware version: H62
Serial number: 61148000001307
ODX name: EV_Brake1UDSContiMK100IPB
ODX version: 037009
Long coding: 0EEC6A8F34212374477B060660C94970562CC4E2600692712022F058C282420B00000012121212B835351919323200

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
08 Air Conditioning

System description: Climatronic
Software number: 5G0907044DN
Software version: 2001
Hardware number: 5G0907044DN
Hardware version: H04
ODX name: EV_ACClimaBHBVW37X
ODX version: 006146
Long coding: 11020004100100001015104012101822

Subsystems:
System description: E265KlimaHeck
Software version: 0201
Hardware version: H02
Serial number: 04031501850571
Long coding: 000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
09 Central Electrics

System description: BCM PQ37BOSCH
Software number: 5Q0937086BJ
Software version: 0245
Hardware number: 5Q0937086BE
Hardware version: 034
Serial number: 8658270418017C
ODX name: EV_BodyContrModul1UDSBosc
ODX version: 018001

Subsystems:
System description: WWS 180407
Software version: 0607
Hardware version: 042
Serial number: 180413063822
Long coding: 0E4DDD

System description: RLHS
Software version: 0107
Hardware version: 050
Serial number: SBY18M05D02H16M24S27
Long coding: 00A8DD

System description: E1 - LDS MQB
Software version: 0032
Hardware version: H01
Serial number: 08 04 2018 10000028

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
15 Airbag

System description: Airbag VW21
Software number: 3Q0959655BG
Software version: 0703
Hardware number: 3Q0959655BG
Hardware version: 006
Serial number: 003W3P7M1YPN
ODX name: EV_AirbaVW21TS6VW48X
ODX version: 001014
Long coding: 88CCC000000000005C0000CF000800000065

Subsystems:
System description: SideSensor_Df
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 008
Serial number: 35700000000578D4503H
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pf
Software version: 0887
Hardware version: 008
Serial number: 35800000000CF5F4503W
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Dr
Software version: 0148
Hardware version: 301
Serial number: 3510036733C140000005
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: SideSensor_Pr
Software version: 0148
Hardware version: 301
Serial number: 3520051A33B140000005
Long coding: 2D2D2D

System description: FrontSensor_D
Software version: 0149
Hardware version: 304
Serial number: 355003DEA3E14000000W
Long coding: 2D2D2D

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
16 Steering Column

System description: Lenks.Modul
Software number: 5Q0953521AF
Software version: 0235
Hardware number: 5Q0953569A
Hardware version: 075
Serial number: 20180505301370
ODX name: EV_SMLSVALEOMQB
ODX version: 001016
Long coding: 0010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
17 Dashboard

System description: KOMBI
Software number: 3G0920740C
Software version: 0310
Hardware number: 3G0920740C
Hardware version: 202
ODX name: EV_DashBoardVDDMQBAB
ODX version: 009060
Long coding: 07A502082388800C01083B0C5001000000000000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
19 Gateway

System description: GW MQB High
Software number: 3Q0907530AA
Software version: 5364
Hardware number: 3Q0907530C
Hardware version: 521
Serial number: 27051811600502
ODX name: EV_GatewNF
ODX version: 013025
Long coding: 030300047F085708FB0002481C0F00010001070000000000000000000000

Subsystems:
System description: 2-07-1f-07-1f

System description: J367-BDMConti
Software version: 1050
Hardware version: H03
Serial number: 758860000018050102FF

System description: E221__MFL-DC1
Software version: 0103
Hardware version: H17
Serial number: 39180000692910128157
Long coding: 28FFFF

System description: Analoguhr
Software version: 1004
Hardware version: 111
Serial number: 1704201800010173

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
3C Lane Change Assistant Right

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907566B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907566
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B201200 - Data set implausible
static
C111454 - Lane change assistance control module No basic setting
static
C111554 - Lane change assistance control module 2 No basic setting
static
U112300 - Databus error value received
static
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static


---------------------------------------------------------------
42 Driver Door

System description: TSG FS
Software number: 5Q0959593E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959593B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 160418EDB17156
ODX name: EV_DCUDriveSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 00310B20DC00020000001000

Subsystems:
System description: Fond FHSG DRV
Software version: 0002
Hardware version: 007
Serial number: 00000000000009195910
Long coding: 010000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
44 Steering Assistance

System description: MQB_VWBS_GEN2
Software number: 5Q0910143C
Software version: 2211
Hardware number: 5Q0910143
Hardware version: 212
Serial number: 820019 00
ODX name: EV_SteerAssisVWBSMQBGen2
ODX version: 002119
Long coding: 0100001000400010

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
52 Passenger Door

System description: TSG BFS
Software number: 5Q0959592E
Software version: 0041
Hardware number: 5Q0959592B
Hardware version: 020
Serial number: 210418EDL12901
ODX name: EV_DCUPasseSideEWMAXKLO
ODX version: 006003
Long coding: 00310120DC00020000001000

Subsystems:
System description: Fond FHSG PSG
Software version: 0002
Hardware version: 007
Serial number: 00000000000009187879
Long coding: 090000

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
5F Multimedia

System description: MU-S--ER
Software number: 3Q0035824C
Software version: 0891
Hardware number: 3Q0035824C
Hardware version: 722
ODX name: EV_MUStd4CDELP
ODX version: 001001
Long coding: 02840100FF00000051110001001828001F0410C40120010002

Subsystems:
System description: ABT_Std-2
Software version: 8130
Hardware version: H52
Serial number: VWZ6ZJV1080133

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
6C Rear View Camera

System description: RVC Compact
Software number: 5Q0980556
Software version: 0170
Hardware number: 5Q0980556
Hardware version: H09
ODX name: EV_CamSysRVRVCPANAMQBAB
ODX version: 005007
Long coding: 0184010162002017000040

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
76 Parking Assistance

System description: PDC 8 Kanal
Software number: 5QA919294E
Software version: 0443
Hardware number: 5QA919294
Hardware version: H07
Serial number: 00030841801810135866
ODX name: EV_EPHVA18AU3700000
ODX version: 009035
Long coding: 0471155051

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
B7 Start System Interface

System description: VWKESSYMQB
Software number: 3Q0959435F
Software version: 0907
Hardware number: 3Q0959435F
Hardware version: 027
Serial number: 0478532326
ODX name: EV_KessyHellaMQBAB
ODX version: 004041
Long coding: 102F0F0723

Trouble codes:
No trouble codes found

---------------------------------------------------------------
CF Lane Change Assistant Left

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907590B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907590
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static

The radars have to be the same software version. So you have to update one. And you need to upload a dataset to them

 

[Slimshouki]

The radars have to be the same software version. So you have to update one. And you need to upload a dataset to them

They do have the same software version 0230 !

CF Lane Change Assistant Left

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907590B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907590
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS2BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static

3C Lane Change Assistant Right

System description: MRR1Rear
Software number: 3Q0907566B
Software version: 0230
Hardware number: 3Q0907566
Hardware version: H16
ODX name: EV_RearRadarS1BoschVW48X
ODX version: 001002
Long coding: 044002

Trouble codes:
B201200 - Data set implausible
static
C111454 - Lane change assistance control module No basic setting
static
C111554 - Lane change assistance control module 2 No basic setting
static
U112300 - Databus error value received
static
B200100 - Control module Incorrect software version
static