I am going to assume that you are not one sided in your argument and present the following, by using your logic:
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If it's the first date, I don't mind making myself ejaculate when I get home, but if she doesn't bang me or give me head, then a second date will never happen.
Once I'm in a relationship, it is OK for her to not make me cum as much. I'll even eat her out once for every 47 times she blows me. I just have the tradition "girl must be a piece of ass" ingrained in my head. It just doesn't feel right if I have to go home and jack off after a first date. I just see it as a girl really wants me to be happy all the time.
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That was really fucking fun to write!!! :happyanim: Now, does it seem fair that women are the "catch" and guys can not be? We get being able to pee standing up at the expense of being the lower grade acquisition? Should I tell my adorable 3 and 8 year old nephews that they will posses no good qualities except for the ability to buy love? The thought makes me weep.
Now, I am sure you are a cool female since you are on a VW forum. I am in no way attacking you, and your female input was useful in demonstrating what is wrong with the situation. Trust me, I respect and love women. I am very good at relationships. I just realize I am worth something, and want other guys to know they are too.
that's an interesting way to put things and i respect your view. i obviously have a traditional viewpoint on the matter, and it's hard to change what society has brought me to expect out of a date.
i can't help what i'm attracted to, so even though i agree with you that the way things are is unfair, it won't change the fact that you wont get a second date if you don't pay for the first one, because i'll just get turned off and lose interest. am i a golddigger? i don't consider myself one, if you knew who i was dating then you'd KNOW i'm not a golddigger, in fact, if i was, i'd dump him for a guy that would BUY ME CAR PARTS AT LEAST ONCE IN THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN WITH YOUR ASS :mad0259:, but that's a different issue. in my current relationship (we're just dating actually), i always insist i pay for myself when we go out, but 90% of the time he doesn't let me. is it wrong that i'm more attracted to him because he's willing to take care of me? a girl can't help it if it makes her feel good, but if you take care of me (whether it's monetary or not) i'll take care of you in my own way.
and in regards to this statement:
Once you stop paying, they'll be showing up to your house in baggy sweat pants and T-shirts.
i'll only stop giving a shit about how i look, once you stop giving a shit about how you look. so as long as you stay motivated to look good for me, i will do the same.
i mean ideally, if we date each other like we're all gay and all this girl/guy bullshit was put aside, i'm sure that things would be a easier. i've had this discussion with several gay friends of mine, and they just split everything on a date.
all in all, we can't help what we like, if you're into girls that suck your dick on the first date and you find a girl that does, than awesome, if she doesn't, then move on to the next bitch that will, isn't that what dating is all about anyway? :iono: